tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post4689037481339545942..comments2023-12-15T02:26:43.878-06:00Comments on CSU Faculty Voice: Accreditation and the HLC Visit: Are We Headed for Probation?Phillip Beverlyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05105319296231539370noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-5640279922384306532016-11-09T11:46:45.254-06:002016-11-09T11:46:45.254-06:00and... this morning our prez wants to tell the wor...and... this morning our prez wants to tell the world that the Tribune made one announcement about our open house. In the mean time, GSU has a real marketing strategy with multiple ads in print, on-line and on the radio to promote their open houses. CSU Historyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16515235912842893474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-35115925181197323512016-11-06T11:24:32.962-06:002016-11-06T11:24:32.962-06:00Has anyone heard the status of the Meeks case? The...Has anyone heard the status of the Meeks case? There was a hearing set for Oct 19th. If there was no resolution, I believe the court date was set for sometime in January.deeplyconcernedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18404124603956099959noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-32505867984903218032016-11-03T11:45:28.154-05:002016-11-03T11:45:28.154-05:00I think some of you are being unfair to Mike. If ...I think some of you are being unfair to Mike. If you are a low-level administrator, a director or coordinator of this or that, and you’ve seen many of your colleagues and their jobs disappear, you might not be able to say you won’t work on the committee. You might be making between 30 or 40 thousand a year, have kids at home, a mortgage; you need the benefits. Yes, you can look for a new job, but until one materializes, you’re stuck. The only choice is to serve on the wretched committee and try to bring your honest concerns to the table as best you can.<br /><br />I had the luxury of being able to retire—at some substantial cost to my retirement funds—because it literally turned my stomach to work for Wayne and his minions. Not everyone has either the protection of tenure (or Union) or the ability to quit/get fired in protest.<br />R. Bennyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10141757700850302758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-49988116272806847442016-11-02T16:15:25.336-05:002016-11-02T16:15:25.336-05:00Mike,
Please consider reading Professor Bionaz'...Mike,<br />Please consider reading Professor Bionaz's message to you again. The reread your response. You are an administrator. He documents a slew of administrators on this committee. You then say that a few faculty proofread a document!!! Do you not see the problem? The faculty should be in charge of the process and they have been reduced to proofreaders. That is the problem. <br /><br />If your 'supervisors' told you that you had to deliver an electric shock to somebody, would you do as you were told, as you state in your responses? Well, participating in such an outrageous process as you have tells me that obey authority somewhat blindly. Please correct me if I have misunderstood. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08518648713799753489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-43426515061651103422016-10-31T09:26:03.905-05:002016-10-31T09:26:03.905-05:00Because it would be a waste of time.
In all hones...Because it would be a waste of time. <br />In all honesty, if I thought for a second that a faculty member's version of this document would supplant whatever the administration will submit, I'd sign on. The administration, however, has made it clear that faculty are crap, that faculty suggestions are to be ignored, and under the guise of financial exigency faculty are expendable and to be eliminated. If the administration, especially under Wayne Watson, had not insisted on centralizing power in the president's office and had ever truly committed itself to shared governance on this campus, CSU would have had a chance to be great university. If we had a Board of Trustees that understood the importance of faculty voices in running this enterprise, CSU could have had a chance. Heck, if Thomas Calhoun asked me to do what you did, I'd rally and put pen to paper. But now? After the wrecking ball of Watson and Henderson and Young and Zollar has hit, faculty are supposed to pick up the pieces? How long do we continue this dance? We are FUBAR and the administration is scrambling to cobble together some semblance of a document to convince an agency (that shirked its oversight of us in the past) to forgive us our sins. What have I heard over the years here on this campus from administrators (upper, middle, and lower), from faculty tenured and non-tenured who have failed in the past to get exercised over the egregious assault on academics at CSU? "No use protesting or speaking up,'they' will never close down the only African American/minority-serving university in Illinois." The upper Admin has acted as if their actions in the past do not matter and that they will go on as before. They are clearly waiting for the cavalry to ride in--the Black Caucus? Donne Trotter? Emil? maybe the fixer from Rainbow Push? At this point, unfortunately, I think that is how we will be saved.Ann Kuzdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00168556306929918973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-50645031529761002642016-10-31T04:01:48.750-05:002016-10-31T04:01:48.750-05:00The point is, your fight is with "administrat...The point is, your fight is with "administration" not the non-management administrators, yet you continue to lump everyone together and refuse to accept facts. If this is such a horrible document, why not submit your version and post it on this forum for everyone to read and give their reactions?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-56534439511434474502016-10-30T09:10:42.696-05:002016-10-30T09:10:42.696-05:00I don't believe that to be the case in this cr...I don't believe that to be the case in this critique. The insidiousness of the fascistic Watson administration that has remained in place has been to inculcate fear of retaliation even among those who are not vulnerable. "We were just following orders" is now an oft-used excuse by administrators who have nothing to lose.Ann Kuzdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00168556306929918973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-17942889275244113612016-10-30T06:02:52.155-05:002016-10-30T06:02:52.155-05:00I'm just saying that if you have a problem wit...I'm just saying that if you have a problem with "administration" don't take it out on the hard-working, unprotected "administrators. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-11718397865258123432016-10-29T10:42:20.772-05:002016-10-29T10:42:20.772-05:00Sooner or later, HLC will catch on. The HLC wants ...Sooner or later, HLC will catch on. The HLC wants an honest assessment of the current state of the University and clear plans to address current problems. CSU is better at deception and denial. CSU Historyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16515235912842893474noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-2626124572235701632016-10-29T09:31:00.767-05:002016-10-29T09:31:00.767-05:00And why the need to press into service all these l...And why the need to press into service all these low- or mid-level "administrators" in the first place? Perhaps if the upper "administration"--Wayne Watson and Angela Henderson in particular-- did not treat the faculty who worked on the last HLC report like they were turds to be kicked to the gutter there would be more of a faculty presence on this committee. How is the Administration spinning the lack of faculty involvement this time around? Ann Kuzdalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00168556306929918973noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-44953813459988627512016-10-29T04:07:45.921-05:002016-10-29T04:07:45.921-05:00Whomever made the classification, "administra...Whomever made the classification, "administrators" at CSU are hard working, lowly people who do not have a union or civil service contract to protect them. "Administration" make and enforce policy. That is a big difference and needs to be recognized.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-49641093853095307712016-10-29T04:00:17.229-05:002016-10-29T04:00:17.229-05:00Also, there are many faculty who were members of e...Also, there are many faculty who were members of each Criterion sub-committee who wrote each section of the report. There were also two faculty members who proofread the report before it went to the president and provost.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-80678567847048148862016-10-29T03:53:00.167-05:002016-10-29T03:53:00.167-05:00Those are "Administration." I am on the ...Those are "Administration." I am on the committee and just a lowly "administrator." I don't make policy, enforce policy. I just do as I am told because I do not have the protection of a union or civil service contract.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-89305262336224232912016-10-28T21:40:40.782-05:002016-10-28T21:40:40.782-05:00By the way, the unrealistic job classifications ar...By the way, the unrealistic job classifications are given by CSU, not the state. State auditors pointed out to the CSU administration several years ago that they were classifying a lot of jobs as "administrators" that other state schools do not, making it appear that CSU's administrator-to-everybody-else ratio is higher. CSU declined to change. I'm guessing the aim was union-busting: administrators can't have union-contract protections.moyenagehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09447744804492193068noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-21539181832974104942016-10-28T14:06:19.868-05:002016-10-28T14:06:19.868-05:00Not many, just a few, three to be exact. Actually,...Not many, just a few, three to be exact. Actually, according to the CSU web site, there are 25 persons on the committee (Michael Ellison is no longer here). Here's the tally: the President, the Provost, 2 Vice Presidents, an Associate Vice President, 2 Associate Provosts, an Assistant Provost, the Chief Information Officer, 5 Deans, 1 Associate Dean, 1 Chairperson. Looks pretty top-heavy to me. Let's be clear, this fiasco will be in the lap of the President and Provost.Robert Bionazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04373965422772502091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-68627756336993879132016-10-28T13:21:25.108-05:002016-10-28T13:21:25.108-05:00Many "administrators" on the committee A...Many "administrators" on the committee ARE NOT "Administration." We are dedicated, hard-working staff given this unrealistic job classification by the State.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com