tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post4717440881300894841..comments2023-12-15T02:26:43.878-06:00Comments on CSU Faculty Voice: The Dirty Politics of the Preacher-Politician Class: A Lesson in Colonial PoliticsPhillip Beverlyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05105319296231539370noreply@blogger.comBlogger16125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-76426760553891756842013-04-02T17:40:19.083-05:002013-04-02T17:40:19.083-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16102194060771111642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-81468608082838474952013-04-02T10:22:11.118-05:002013-04-02T10:22:11.118-05:00Well, there is a lot of emotion running high on al...Well, there is a lot of emotion running high on all parts of campus. Aside from what some of us have been doing here on the blog, at Trustee meetings, in the Senate, I have not seen an alternative method of opposition being offered to these methods. Tenured faculty are the only ones who can stand up publicly without fear of direct recourse for their actions. Whether you think you'd like to have a beer with Watson and enjoy being engaged by his charm (and there is no doubt he has that) is one thing --Emil Jones has charm-- no one is saying these guys are Hitler, but their actions (not their words and charm) have been ruthless over decades and so openly displayed over the past 6 weeks that Watson has no fear of firing Glenn Meeks or reneging on signed contracts or abrogating promises made to faculty about shared governance. They will stop at nothing--lies and political machinations, ruining reputations, to stay in power and to keep CSU as Emil Jones' personal property unable to operate independently like other universities. They clearly have Quinn in their pocket, they have many media outlets, they have various "community" leaders marshalled. Besides hunkering down and hoping Emil does not appoint Watson for another 5-year contract what method of opposition is the alternative?Cordayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11407012136671501643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-6100484280679921752013-04-02T09:11:00.129-05:002013-04-02T09:11:00.129-05:00I don't disagree with that at all. What I obj...I don't disagree with that at all. What I object to is telling folks who, for whatever reason, didn't help that its entirely their fault the barn burned down. Or worse yet, telling them "well I know you let us use your waterhose, spigot, and your buckets but, you weren't out there with us, so you should have done more."Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16102194060771111642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-59162898758938974332013-04-02T08:56:32.088-05:002013-04-02T08:56:32.088-05:00Yes, but when the house is on fire, everyone needs...Yes, but when the house is on fire, everyone needs to grab a bucket and work together to put it out quickly. I'm thinking of Pete Seeger's take on the Book of Ecclesiastes: --to everything there is a season: <br />...A time of love, a time of hate<br />A time of war, a time of peace<br />A time you may embrace, a time to refrain from embracing<br /><br />BTW Have a look at the 4-page document on how faculty are to conduct departmental searches--one can only imagine what else is on the way from the imperial presidency.Cordayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11407012136671501643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-75183363397544607192013-04-02T07:51:27.545-05:002013-04-02T07:51:27.545-05:00Since you seem intent on continuing this line of d...Since you seem intent on continuing this line of discussion, I will point out three things: 1) there are multiple ways to reach the same destination; 2) there are issues at play here you know nothing about; 3) we are capable of engaging in multiple discussions without one necessarily being a distraction from the other.Robert Bionazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04373965422772502091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-11836780584236877802013-04-02T07:49:03.106-05:002013-04-02T07:49:03.106-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.Robert Bionazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04373965422772502091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-76109348303818961962013-04-02T07:16:01.986-05:002013-04-02T07:16:01.986-05:00I don't think anyone has taken their eye off t...I don't think anyone has taken their eye off the ball. I think this a fight over tactics and not objective. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16102194060771111642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-89229277287510936872013-04-02T06:19:47.199-05:002013-04-02T06:19:47.199-05:00Doc, its not about being "comfortable" o...Doc, its not about being "comfortable" or not. I offer to mediate here not out of any want of creating a more peaceful world, but for a very practical reason. <br /><br />My priority is the ouster of Emperor Wayne I. I argue ending the Jim Crow conditions of our school, and saving the school, should take precedence. What can anyone hope to gain via this infighting? What a Pyrrhic victory would be gained here if it came at the price of losing our fight against the Emperor and the destruction of the school!<br /><br />I believe the differences between the parties involved here are both solvable AND would be best handled in a face to face manner, as opposed to online. In addition, even if the differences of the parties involved here prove insolvable, I argue the principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" should be followed, for the EMPEROR is the greater threat. The greater threat to my investment in time and money made at the school, the greater threat to the school itself, and the greater threat to the parties involved here. Tom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16968177739301957349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-13434563988153223042013-04-01T21:17:27.955-05:002013-04-01T21:17:27.955-05:00NiceNiceAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16102194060771111642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-21110090958503587462013-04-01T20:49:16.389-05:002013-04-01T20:49:16.389-05:00amen-raamen-raProfessor Panchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683107394023817405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-46693188117205810112013-04-01T19:43:24.669-05:002013-04-01T19:43:24.669-05:00If you're not comfortable with this exchange, ...If you're not comfortable with this exchange, don't read the comments.Robert Bionazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04373965422772502091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-56983194664540493582013-04-01T19:11:08.662-05:002013-04-01T19:11:08.662-05:00Enough! ENOUGH! E-F**KING-NUFF!!! Sweet JESUS! ...Enough! ENOUGH! E-F**KING-NUFF!!! Sweet JESUS! Haven't you people had ENOUGH of having this E Fight? DAMMIT!<br /><br />I offer to be the mediator at a coffee date with all involved parties in this. <br /><br />PLEASE!!!????Tom Painehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16968177739301957349noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-25119979715950939402013-04-01T17:58:07.314-05:002013-04-01T17:58:07.314-05:00And Chris Hedges writing today in Truthdig an arti...And Chris Hedges writing today in Truthdig an article called "The Treason of the Intellectuals" has some poignant quotes and words of his own. <br /><br />http://www.truthdig.com/report/print/the_treason_of_the_intellectuals_20130331/<br /><br />“Nothing in my view is more reprehensible than those habits of mind in the intellectual that induce avoidance, that characteristic turning away from a difficult and principled position, which you know to be the right one, but which you decide not to take,” wrote the late Edward Said. “You do not want to appear too political; you are afraid of seeming controversial; you want to keep a reputation for being balanced, objective, moderate; your hope is to be asked back, to consult, to be on a board or prestigious committee, and so to remain within the responsible mainstream; someday you hope to get an honorary degree, a big prize, perhaps even an ambassadorship.”<br /><br />“For an intellectual these habits of mind are corrupting par excellence,” Said went on. “If anything can denature, neutralize, and finally kill a passionate intellectual life it is the internalization of such habits. Personally I have encountered them in one of the toughest of all contemporary issues, Palestine, where fear of speaking out about one of the greatest injustices in modern history has hobbled, blinkered, muzzled many who know the truth and are in a position to serve it. For despite the abuse and vilification that any outspoken supporter of Palestinian rights and self-determination earns for him or herself, the truth deserves to be spoken, represented by an unafraid and compassionate intellectual.”<br /><br />“The desire to tell the truth,” wrote Paul Baran, the brilliant Marxist economist and author of “The Political Economy of Growth,” is “only one condition for being an intellectual. The other is courage, readiness to carry on rational inquiry to wherever it may lead … to withstand … comfortable and lucrative conformity.”<br /><br />[Hedges concludes]<br />"Those who doggedly challenge the orthodoxy of belief, who question the reigning political passions, who refuse to sacrifice their integrity to serve the cult of power, are pushed to the margins. They are denounced by the very people who, years later, will often claim these moral battles as their own. It is only the outcasts and the rebels who keep truth and intellectual inquiry alive. They alone name the crimes of the state. They alone give a voice to the victims of oppression. They alone ask the difficult questions. Most important, they expose the powerful, along with their liberal apologists, for what they are."<br /><br />Cordayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11407012136671501643noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-53407772470776050572013-04-01T12:35:45.718-05:002013-04-01T12:35:45.718-05:00According to the Chicago city maps, the university...According to the Chicago city maps, the university is located in the Roseland neighborhood. There are traditional and colloquial names for different sections of neighborhoods and there are the official city designated names. I used the official designation. mea culpa! As for getting to know the working classes in Roseland, I invite anyone to join me and a few others who have been working throughout the Roseland neighborhood on a wide range of social justice issues but primarily in the areas of urban ag, community gardening, food justice, sustainability, heritage cuisines and the like. In fact, we have a meeting this Wednesday in the Woodson Library. Just working class folks, though, no compradors allowed. No chances for networking or rubbing elbows with the petit bourgeoisie. <br />Professor Panchohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15683107394023817405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-60561719489304080782013-04-01T11:10:47.648-05:002013-04-01T11:10:47.648-05:00Frankly, I thought Pancho's post an interestin...Frankly, I thought Pancho's post an interesting perspective. If you have any comments that are not entirely personal, I'd be interested in reading them.Robert Bionazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04373965422772502091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7187403837913738089.post-78964436978000820562013-04-01T10:48:06.462-05:002013-04-01T10:48:06.462-05:00Thanks for the history lesson. This was interesti...Thanks for the history lesson. This was interesting and I learned much from reading it. The first thing I learned is that you can manage to insult more that just African American faculty here at CSU. I would love to hear your stories about your verbal assaults on Brown preachers one day.<br /><br />The second thing I learned is that Chicago State University is located in Roseland. Oh wait, it's not. CSU is located in Rosemoor! There is a difference. Just ask some of the folks who lived there.<br /><br />Want to fight for the black working classes in the community? Take some time to get to know them.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16102194060771111642noreply@blogger.com